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I am looking at building a post anvil of the Sea Robin variety (video on order)I was cruising around on you tube when I came across some awesome videos on how Kukris are made in Nepal. At one point it showed a shop where several smiths were lined up squatting behind small anvils, each with their own small forge and they were happily banging truck leaf springs into Kukris. All of a sudden it struck me... The small anvils were actually sledge hammer heads mounted in a big gob of concrete. My question then is would a post maul head be hard enough to do forging on for a beginning smith? I am toying with the idea of making a stand out of 4x4s or something similar on end but leave the center ones set down about half or two thirds the height of the maul head set on one face and filling the open area around it with either cement or melted lead... If I am right the whole thing might run a hundred bucks or so and might be good enough to really get me started. I just do not want to waste the effort if the face of the maul is going to be wrecked the first time I try to use it. I have seen ones with a face diameter up to about five inches that weigh 16 or 18 pounds. If the consesus is that it would be hard enough then I will try and post the results in the WIP area. <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//biggrin.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />

 
Posted : 28/04/2014 2:22 pm
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David

The maul head should work and be hard enough after all, we dont wear out our hammers every time we use them. The one thing to consider here though is the benefit to effort ratio that you mentioned. If you are going to put in the time, effort, and $100, you may want to save a little more and just get an anvil.

I have been down this road with anvils and grinders. My time, my efforts, and my money would have all been better spent going the right way first.

I know this stuff can be expensive, but it all adds up and in the end, wise investments in tools would have been a better option for me anyway.

Just my thoughts

Brian

 
Posted : 28/04/2014 3:42 pm
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I wish it was that easy! I have looked everywhere for a decent anvil that does not cost as much as good steak per pound or has not had the crap beat out of it... I have been saving for years for my shop and a good anvil is about all I lack! KMG with flat platen and a 14" wheel, chili forge Habenero gas forge, etc. I just thought this might be a good way to get started as I have been lookingfor quite some time and have struck out.

 
Posted : 28/04/2014 7:59 pm
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David try this Stake Anvil, depends on which part of the world you are getting your steaks from. This might get you going. Other options would include the good old railroad section anvil (Wear your ear goggles! or you will be as deaf as me.)

As an aside I have been thinking about getting a couple of these for teaching at primitive events.

 
Posted : 29/04/2014 5:57 am
Matthew Parkinson
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We made a "sea Robin" style anvil out of a drop of 4" round 1050 we got from a local steel supplier. Weight is right around 125lb and the cost was about $1.50LB, we just fabricated a stand, ground two parallel flats and flame hardened the face. if makes a very affecting bladesmithing anvil for a very low investment.

The fact is you could do the same thing out of mild steel (running new about $0.75 LB) and have just about as affective a tool. Mass is what makes an anvil affective the hardness helps with rebound and from keeping the face from dinging up, but a 200lb block of mild with most of the mass under the blow will be far more affective than a 100lb traditional anvil with a nice hard face.

MP

 
Posted : 29/04/2014 7:43 am
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If all you are going to forge is blades, a block of steel will do. But if you have ideas of incorporating blacksmith techniques into your work you should think of getting a nice anvil. The horn and hardy options are a worthy consideration.

Lin Rhea, ABS Mastersmith

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Posted : 30/04/2014 9:19 am
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I've got an old Peter Wright which has a lot of dings and dents on the face. I quickly realized how much time and effort a clean, smooth anvil face can save.

So, I broke down and invested in a #12 Peddinghaus from Blacksmiths Depot since they were on sale. I couldn't pass up the price on something which is likely to only get more and more expensive as the months go by.

 
Posted : 26/05/2014 1:24 pm
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Bo

You made a good decision. I purchased the same anvil from Steve Kane at Bladesmith's Depot many years ago and it has served me well.

Now, If you need an anvil stand this is the link to some plans for making one that are on the ABS Website that the Kane's gave to me, Click: Anvil Stand Plans

Dan Cassidy
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Posted : 26/05/2014 1:48 pm
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