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Fish mouth forging failed

The material is Damascus steel made of 20c and 15n20 from Uhb, Sweden.

The thickness of 4 samples is 20mm, 12mm, 6mm, 5.5mm.

The process is to close the fish mouth at 1150 degrees Celsius, borax, 1280 degrees Celsius for 2-5 minutes, tap once with a hand hammer, then soak for 1 to 2 minutes in the furnace at 1280 degrees Celsius, continue to tap with a medium hammer, repeatedly soaking Hit 4-5 times.

After grinding the scale, it was found that there was no successful soldering, and the weld did not show traces of oxidation, but there were severe white lines.

I put the knives in kerosene last night and are ready to be forged again today.

 
Posted : 09/10/2019 7:09 pm
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Fortunately, I succeeded in the second time. I found some interesting things, for example, the high-temperature knife embryo in kerosene can deoxidize relatively quickly, and the black scales become red scales in about 3 minutes. In addition, I think it is more difficult to weld with borax, I have no theoretical basis

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Posted : 10/10/2019 9:15 pm
Kevin R. Cashen
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Yuanming, you will need to resize the images, as they have exceeded the limits of this forum. We generally give people 24 to 26 hours to resize to 1000 X 1000, or less, before we are forced to delete them.

I am glad you made progress on the problem, the pictures were helpful in understanding your situation, even if they are too large. I now understand what you were trying to accomplish. But do resize the images.

"One test is worth 1000 'expert' opinions" Riehle Testing Machines Co.

 
Posted : 11/10/2019 8:25 am
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Thank you for your friendly reminder. Because of the language relationship, I don’t understand the forum system. I will pay attention and carefully study the rules of the forum.

 
Posted : 11/10/2019 10:00 pm
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