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After taking the ABS intro course last month (with Brion Tomberlin and Christoph Deringer, and Nick Rossi assisting, @NESM) I've got a bunch of forged blades, and have started working on my first guard/handle for a hidden tang blade. I hogged out a rough hole with a drill press, and to fit the hole to the tang I've decided to try making a couple of floats, similar to the ones that Lie-Nielsen makes. See photos below.

I've got the basic tapers forged out and ground flat(ish), and was about to file in the teeth using a triangular or even feather file. But then it occurred to me: when I go to heat-treat them, all those teeth are going to have acute angles in the bottoms of them. Am I just asking for terrible cracking in the gullies of the teeth? But if I heat-treat first, filing the teeth in afterwards is going to be a bear of a job. I'd probably destroy some nice files doing it.

Suggestions/advice?

 
Posted : 25/09/2018 3:37 pm
Lin Rhea
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That's an interesting project David.

I have not made one of those so I am not really speaking with experience. However if I were to make one, I would think I'd need to heat treat before cutting any teeth and then grind the teeth with a surface grinder type machine.

That said, I would also be looking into a process that would use historic techniques. Some times the old ways have an application in our modern projects.

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Posted : 26/09/2018 7:00 am
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David - while you are not trying to case harden - there is a great video on youtube from ClickSpring on making and hardening files. In his case hardening steps, he cuts the file teeth first, then wraps the file in a carbon paste and clay - then heats and quenches. Maybe the bit of wrapping in a protective clay layer would keep your work from cracking?

I think this idea might allow you to cut your teeth wile soft and still harden with some success.

Here is a link to the video I am talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Mp1fNzIT8

 
Posted : 27/09/2018 9:45 am
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Thanks, Lin and Jim!

I'll definitely check out that video; that's a great idea. (ClickSpring is amazing.)

 
Posted : 27/09/2018 9:54 am
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