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Video - Finishing Plunge Cuts On The Grinder (How I Do It)

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Ed Caffrey
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My Wonderful wife Cindy gave me a new GoPro camera for Christmas! My thought was to be able to provide short "how I do it" videos. This morning I was grinding and thought of something that many folks have asked about during phone conversations....that I could never explain in words...so I tried out the new camera! This is the first attempt with it....but I really like the video quality.

The plan is to provide short videos on various things that I've received questions on. If there is something you'd like to see, feel free to post it on this thread, or email me, and I'll put it on the list! <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//smile.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

This one is a test run to see how things will work. Hopefully, as I learn more about the GoPro, and how to use it, the videos will get better and better.

DISCLAIMER: I didn't think to mention it in the video, but this will only work with J-weight belts and finer.....DO NOT attempt to do this with a Y or X weight, or a micron belt....chances are good that the belt will either rip, or plain "explode"....either way its no fun! <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//smile.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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Ed Caffrey, ABS MS
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Posted : 30/12/2014 7:42 pm
Steve Culver
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Great video Ed!!! I do my plunge cuts the same way. I replaced the platen on my grinder with a piece of surface ground O-1 steel. I radiused the edges of the new platen to be exactly the same. That way, they will grind matching plunges.

I started using a GoPro camera in my shop this summer. We may have to compare notes on how we use them.

 
Posted : 30/12/2014 8:30 pm
Ed Caffrey
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I sure don't know much yet about the GoPro......I got excited today because I ordered a "gooseneck" clamp-on "holder" for it off amazon...and it arrived! <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//smile.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Probably the best thing I've found for mine is that GoPro app for my iphone....it's basically a remote for the camera, that allows me to see what the camera sees.....makes it MUCH easier to setup the camera!

I'm waiting for a headstrap/mount to arrive, then I'm gona see how ti works while I'm at the forge. (with my luck I'll end up melting the camera! <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//smile.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />)

Ed Caffrey, ABS MS
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Posted : 30/12/2014 8:40 pm
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Great video Ed! Thank you for filming and posting.

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Posted : 30/12/2014 8:46 pm
BrionTomberlin
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Great Ed and thank you. Mine are done the same way. I guess I am a technological caveman. I have a good digital camera, but have not ventured into video, like go pro. Our members will love this.

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Posted : 30/12/2014 8:53 pm
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Thank you Ed I found your video very helpful

Scott

 
Posted : 30/12/2014 9:18 pm
Steve Culver
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I bought the LCD touchscreen backpack for my GoPro. I use it to compose shots. I've also got the GoPro remote control. The LCD screen is a battery hog, if you leave it turned on very long. You can't use the extended life battery with the LCD screen attached either.

I've been filming with the camera set in narrow lens setting. The wide angle lenses cause too much fish eye. I've been using 48 frames per second setting. I think I get decent video, without creating such large video files.

Not having zoom ability is something to get used to. Though, I recently heard that there are accessory zoom lenses that you can get for the GoPro.

I'm curious about what editing software that you used for your video. I've got a profession video editing software, that I ain't got brains to use. I also downloaded the GoPro editing software. I've got about 20 hours of video that I shot this summer and have yet to edit.

 
Posted : 30/12/2014 9:40 pm
Ed Caffrey
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That video was filmed at 1080p, narrow. I used the GoPro software...but really didn't edit anything, I just ran it through the conversion, as a .MOV file, then uploaded it to youtube. This evening I tried filming under my light tent, with a folder on a rotating table with the same settings....and it was a train wreck. Video came out choppy and a little off color. I've gona have to revisit that and figure out what I did wrong. My favorite video editing software is Cyberlink Power Director....but I'm having trouble getting it to import the raw fottage from the gopro.....just one more thing to figure out.

Ed Caffrey, ABS MS
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Posted : 30/12/2014 9:49 pm
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Thanks ,this is a area I struggle with..

Michael Arguello

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Posted : 30/12/2014 11:03 pm
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Hey, Ed-great video <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//smile.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />. I have happy memories of standing at that grinder. And thanks for putting up more "how to" videos. Plunge lines (symmetrical/even and nicely radiused) are one of those areas that can drive a guy to drink. One thing your video and one of the above comments made me think of was the radius. Since your platen edges aren't rounded over, would you mind explaining how you apply the pressure when the plunge is up against the corner of the platen and why it's rounded and not a more angled plunge? Pretty sure I know the answer, but just in case <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//wink.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />. Looking forward to the new videos.

Jeremy

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Posted : 30/12/2014 11:29 pm
Ed Caffrey
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Thanks Jer!

In the past I've tried rounding the edges of the platen, but for me it caused issues in the other areas of grinding. My platens are "glass" faced, so all I ever do to the edges is to "brush" them with a fine diamond sharpener to take off the sharp corner...just enough to remove the sharp corners that would otherwise act as a belt splitter.

Probably the biggest thing to watch out for when applying my method is to be gentle on the amount of pressure placed on the other end of the blade.....it doesn't take much to get that "2" belt mark".

As for the pressure applied to the plunges, that's all dependent on the blade you're grinding.....heavy blades like the one in the video require pressure both into the belt, as well as into the corner/plunge. There are times that I have jumped over the plunge and marred up the ricasso.....GGGRRRRR! <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//smile.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Ed Caffrey, ABS MS
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Posted : 31/12/2014 7:52 am
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Great video and a good subject. Videos like this aren't easy nor quick to make and my hat's off to you. Thanks for taking the time to share with us.

Gary

 
Posted : 31/12/2014 6:53 pm
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great video Ed I would like to see how you do the final hand sanding . thanks again Jim oertel

 
Posted : 31/12/2014 10:34 pm
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Thanks for sharing , Helps alot.

 
Posted : 01/01/2015 3:14 am
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Thanks for the great video Ed. Very helpfull.

 
Posted : 01/01/2015 2:33 pm
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