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Help please,

I make and donate a knife every year for the Leukemia Lymphoma Society Golf Tournament in Forest VA. My knives in the past have been auction off between $600 to $1,100. But keep in mind there are a lot of golfers who have been drinking all day bidding against each other.

The man who has been the highest bidder the last two years said he was going to be the highest bidder this year and asked if I would make a chef knife that he could keep on his boat in Cap Cod. I have to assume he will be the highest bidder again this year.

Here lies the problem, I only have forged and heat treated high carbon steel, which I don't think is a good choice for salt water. I have until September 21st to find a good steel, forge or stock removal a blade, heat treat, and assemble.

Ideas and advice please.

Thank you all,

Dean

 
Posted : 14/06/2017 12:14 pm
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Hi Dean,

Just because the man wants a kitchen knife for his boat doesn't mean that it has to be salt water resistant. I would suggest using the steel that you're most comfortable with and explain to the customer how to care for it.

Gary

 
Posted : 15/06/2017 9:50 pm
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I have only used two stainless steels for knives, 440C and 154CM. I used these because although maximum performance can only be achieved through specialized HT, you can use the same methods as for HC steels and get a pretty darn good blade. I still have my first kitchen knife I ever made and it was stock removal 440C. It is still a great knife (although a bit thicker than I'd like)

Gary has a good point though, care and use is the owner's responsibility.

If you are concerned enough about it, 440C is a good choice.

https://www.alphaknifesupply.com/zdata-bladesteelS-440C.htm

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Posted : 17/06/2017 6:54 pm
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Thank you both, I really want to take care of this guy as he will most likely spend over $500 to win this knife at auction. 154CM may be the way to go, I'll do some research on HT. Gary I understand your point and I have some HC steel on my bench now, but really am worried about rust. I know how Cape Cod can reek havoc on steel as I lived there many years ago.

 
Posted : 19/06/2017 11:40 am
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Thank you both, I really want to take care of this guy as he will most likely spend over $500 to win this knife at auction. 154CM may be the way to go, I'll do some research on HT. Gary I understand your point and I have some HC steel on my bench now, but really am worried about rust. I know how Cape Cod can reek havoc on steel as I lived there many years ago.

154CM HT info. It does not get as hard as 440C with traditional HT methods.

Adding Cryo greatly improves this steel.

https://www.alphaknifesupply.com/zdata-bladesteelS-154CM.htm

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Posted : 19/06/2017 9:56 pm
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Thank you Joshua, I think I will go with the 154CM however I belive I will send it out for HT. I do not have the equipment to properly HT according to your link.

 
Posted : 20/06/2017 8:24 am
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If you ever want to give cryogenic treatment a try, I understand that you can do a decent job using dry ice.

Some folks have told me that they use it in a tub of acetone, others just sandwiching the blade between two blocks.

Not that I am suggesting you try it on this particular project, but in case you ever feel the need to experiment with that sort of thing. <img src=' http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/public/style_emoticons//wink.gi f' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

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“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

 
Posted : 20/06/2017 10:12 pm
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